Monday, June 28, 2004

Outsourcing Storm Favors India

This article appeared in today's Wall Street Journal.

U.S. Criticism Publicizes Low-Cost Labor, Expertise;
Lots of 'Free Advertising'

By JAY SOLOMON
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
June 28, 2004; Page A3

BANGALORE, India -- The pace of outsourcing work to India is picking up, in part because the controversy in the U.S. over the trend has publicized India's low costs and expertise.

In the high-technology hub of Bangalore, two to three Western companies are opening operations in the city every week, say officials at Software Technology Parks of India. More companies are turning to India to do everything from software development to back-office work.

Revenues for call-center businesses grew by 46% to nearly $4 billion, or about ?3.3 billion, during the year ended March 31. And the number of workers in India's technology sector is projected to have jumped by 23% to more than 800,000 in the period, according to the National Association of Software and Service Companies, or Nasscom, the Indian technology industry's trade body. Nasscom expects India's exports of software and services to jump more than 30% to $16 billion in the current year ending next March, about the same growth rate as last year.

Many Indian and American executives say the U.S. criticism of outsourcing is generating important buzz for Indian technology companies, highlighting their low costs and expertise. "During the last six to nine months, we've received hundreds of millions of dollars of free advertising," said Vikram Talwar, chief executive officer of Exlservice Inc., a New York company that processes financial claims for U.S. banks and insurance companies in India.

Companies such as Accenture Ltd., Unisys Corp., Trilogy Inc. and Google Ltd. are significantly expanding back-office, call-center and research-and-development operations here.

Accenture is more than doubling its Indian work force to 10,000 people by the end of the year, the company said, dividing the staff between the Indian cities of Bangalore, Hyderabad and Bombay. Accenture officials say the workers will support the company's consulting business and its back-office operations and provide technical support to clients.

The company stresses, however, that most of the jobs in India are new, rather than headcount transfers from the U.S. or other countries. A spokesman said that even as it expands in India, Accenture plans to add 8,000 employees in the U.S. this year and 11,000 in Europe.

Recent reports in the U.S., too, have argued that the number of jobs being lost to new operations abroad is relatively small. A U.S. Labor Department survey released this month said 4,633 jobs were moved overseas in the first three months of this year. The number represents less than 2% of the total 239,361 layoffs for the quarter, the report said. Critics charged the report picked up only a fraction of the total number of jobs lost to outsourcing, and the issue could well remain contentious as the U.S. presidential campaign heats up this fall. But such findings -- combined with a pickup in job growth in the U.S. -- have in recent months blunted concerns in Washington to some degree.

Some of the concerns that could have derailed investment in Indian operations appear to be easing. In India, national elections in May brought to power the left-leaning Congress Party, initially raising fears that technology companies could face new taxes or regulations. But the party appointed an experienced economic manager as prime minister, and no such measures have been proposed. Executives now say that with the Indian technology industry building up so much critical mass, it is too lucrative for domestic politicians to stop.

There are signs that the outsourcing trend is broadening. U.S. companies continue to make up roughly 80% of the companies outsourcing work to India. But now, Chinese, Japanese and a number of European firms are opening offices in Bangalore and other cities. Companies like Chinese telecommunications-equipment maker Huawei Technologies Co. and Switzerland's STMicroelectronics NV are using India's English-speaking engineers and designers to expand into new markets and create new products. And a growing roster of smaller companies are beginning to outsource work to India.

"Every company in the services sector now knows you have to have a low-cost delivery base," said Mukul Agrawal, the managing director for Unisys's Indian operations. "It's a competitive necessity...and India's the No. 1 destination."

Unisys' business is emblematic too of a wider trend: foreign companies establishing their own operations in India. For five years, the Blue Bell, Pa., software and consulting firm simply contracted with Indian firms to provide back-office support and software development.

Mr. Agrawal said that with the work done in India becoming increasingly complex, Unisys' clients now demand that the company directly oversee it. Unisys' own executives also have concluded that the company needs an Indian presence to protect intellectual property and other strategic assets.

Unisys opened its Bangalore offices in April and is planning to hire 1,000 Indian staff over the next 18 months, Mr. Agrawal said. The workers will focus on software development, financial-claims processing and providing online technical help for Unisys customers. The company plans eventually to hire another 1,000 workers.

While many Indian software firms started by offering basic software code-writing skills, they are now doing research and development for semiconductor makers like Intel Corp. and hardware producers like GE Medical Systems.

Geneva-based chip maker STMicroelectronics has had operations in India since 1987, but for the first years largely just used its Indian engineers for software development, the company said. Today, STMicroelectronics has 1,500 workers engaged in chip design and research for developing wireless technologies.

The company expects to increase its Indian staff to 3,000 during the next few years with its research center near New Delhi becoming a central cog in its global business model. STMicroeletronics' India offices have produced more than 100 patents in the past three years. "A lot [for the company] will depend on the results coming out of India," said Carmelo Papa, a corporate vice president.

The growth is presenting India with new challenges. Cities like Bangalore are facing choking traffic and other infrastructure bottlenecks as they make way for scores of new companies and workers. Even connectivity can be a problem, and mobile-phone networks are often jammed.

Indian executives also say their companies are under pressure from U.S. clients to ensure that they are providing data security and sufficiently skilled workers. India produces 300,000 engineers a year, and local colleges train millions of English-speaking graduates. But one in six call-center workers usually quits his or her job within one year, according to industry executives. Qualified staff are also susceptible to being poached by higher-paying rivals.

I dont have the link for veracity as i read this article in a newsgroup and the link put there took me to a paid subscription section of the WSJ website.....arZan

Outsourcing Storm Favors India

This article appeared in today's Wall Street Journal.

U.S. Criticism Publicizes Low-Cost Labor, Expertise;
Lots of 'Free Advertising'


By JAY SOLOMON
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

June 28, 2004; Page A3

BANGALORE, India -- The pace of outsourcing work to India is picking up, in part because the controversy in the U.S. over the trend has publicized India's low costs and expertise.

In the high-technology hub of Bangalore, two to three Western companies are opening operations in the city every week, say officials at Software Technology Parks of India. More companies are turning to India to do everything from software development to back-office work.

Revenues for call-center businesses grew by 46% to nearly $4 billion, or about ?3.3 billion, during the year ended March 31. And the number of workers in India's technology sector is projected to have jumped by 23% to more than 800,000 in the period, according to the National Association of Software and Service Companies, or Nasscom, the Indian technology industry's trade body. Nasscom expects India's exports of software and services to jump more than 30% to $16 billion in the current year ending next March, about the same growth rate as last year.

Many Indian and American executives say the U.S. criticism of outsourcing is generating important buzz for Indian technology companies, highlighting their low costs and expertise. "During the last six to nine months, we've received hundreds of millions of dollars of free advertising," said Vikram Talwar, chief executive officer of Exlservice Inc., a New York company that processes financial claims for U.S. banks and insurance companies in India.

Companies such as Accenture Ltd., Unisys Corp., Trilogy Inc. and Google Ltd. are significantly expanding back-office, call-center and research-and-development operations here.

Accenture is more than doubling its Indian work force to 10,000 people by the end of the year, the company said, dividing the staff between the Indian cities of Bangalore, Hyderabad and Bombay. Accenture officials say the workers will support the company's consulting business and its back-office operations and provide technical support to clients.

The company stresses, however, that most of the jobs in India are new, rather than headcount transfers from the U.S. or other countries. A spokesman said that even as it expands in India, Accenture plans to add 8,000 employees in the U.S. this year and 11,000 in Europe.

Recent reports in the U.S., too, have argued that the number of jobs being lost to new operations abroad is relatively small. A U.S. Labor Department survey released this month said 4,633 jobs were moved overseas in the first three months of this year. The number represents less than 2% of the total 239,361 layoffs for the quarter, the report said. Critics charged the report picked up only a fraction of the total number of jobs lost to outsourcing, and the issue could well remain contentious as the U.S. presidential campaign heats up this fall. But such findings -- combined with a pickup in job growth in the U.S. -- have in recent months blunted concerns in Washington to some degree.

Some of the concerns that could have derailed investment in Indian operations appear to be easing. In India, national elections in May brought to power the left-leaning Congress Party, initially raising fears that technology companies could face new taxes or regulations. But the party appointed an experienced economic manager as prime minister, and no such measures have been proposed. Executives now say that with the Indian technology industry building up so much critical mass, it is too lucrative for domestic politicians to stop.

There are signs that the outsourcing trend is broadening. U.S. companies continue to make up roughly 80% of the companies outsourcing work to India. But now, Chinese, Japanese and a number of European firms are opening offices in Bangalore and other cities. Companies like Chinese telecommunications-equipment maker Huawei Technologies Co. and Switzerland's STMicroelectronics NV are using India's English-speaking engineers and designers to expand into new markets and create new products. And a growing roster of smaller companies are beginning to outsource work to India.

"Every company in the services sector now knows you have to have a low-cost delivery base," said Mukul Agrawal, the managing director for Unisys's Indian operations. "It's a competitive necessity...and India's the No. 1 destination."

Unisys' business is emblematic too of a wider trend: foreign companies establishing their own operations in India. For five years, the Blue Bell, Pa., software and consulting firm simply contracted with Indian firms to provide back-office support and software development.

Mr. Agrawal said that with the work done in India becoming increasingly complex, Unisys' clients now demand that the company directly oversee it. Unisys' own executives also have concluded that the company needs an Indian presence to protect intellectual property and other strategic assets.

Unisys opened its Bangalore offices in April and is planning to hire 1,000 Indian staff over the next 18 months, Mr. Agrawal said. The workers will focus on software development, financial-claims processing and providing online technical help for Unisys customers. The company plans eventually to hire another 1,000 workers.

While many Indian software firms started by offering basic software code-writing skills, they are now doing research and development for semiconductor makers like Intel Corp. and hardware producers like GE Medical Systems.

Geneva-based chip maker STMicroelectronics has had operations in India since 1987, but for the first years largely just used its Indian engineers for software development, the company said. Today, STMicroelectronics has 1,500 workers engaged in chip design and research for developing wireless technologies.

The company expects to increase its Indian staff to 3,000 during the next few years with its research center near New Delhi becoming a central cog in its global business model. STMicroeletronics' India offices have produced more than 100 patents in the past three years. "A lot [for the company] will depend on the results coming out of India," said Carmelo Papa, a corporate vice president.

The growth is presenting India with new challenges. Cities like Bangalore are facing choking traffic and other infrastructure bottlenecks as they make way for scores of new companies and workers. Even connectivity can be a problem, and mobile-phone networks are often jammed.

Indian executives also say their companies are under pressure from U.S. clients to ensure that they are providing data security and sufficiently skilled workers. India produces 300,000 engineers a year, and local colleges train millions of English-speaking graduates. But one in six call-center workers usually quits his or her job within one year, according to industry executives. Qualified staff are also susceptible to being poached by higher-paying rivals.

I dont have the link for veracity as i read this article in a newsgroup and the link put there took me to a paid subscription section of the WSJ website.....arZan

Wednesday, June 23, 2004

Ghumnewala Chahiye

Humor - Ghumnewala Chahiye

Zindagi Hai To Khwaab Hai
Khwaab Hai To Manzilein Hai
Manzilein Hai To Fasaley Hai
Fasaley Hai To Rastey Hai
Rastay Hai To Mushkilein Hai
Mushkilein Hai To Hausla Hai
Hausla Hai To Vishawas Hai
Vishvas hai to Paisa hai
Paisa hai to Shohrat hai
Shohrat hai to Izzat Hai
Izzat hai to Ladki hai
Ladki hai to Tension hai

Tension hai to Concern hai
Concern hai to a Khayaal hai
Khayaal hai to Khwaab hai
Khawab hai to Growth hai
Growth hai to Zindagi hai
Zindagi hai to khwaab hai
Matlab duniya Gol Gol hai
Bas ghumnewala chahiye......

Applying this to your project


Requirements hai to design hai
Design hai to Development hai
Development hai to Testing hai
Testing hai to Defects hai
Defects hai to Fixing hai
Fixing hai to More Defects hai
Defects hai to Analysis hai
Analysis hai to Requirements hai
Requirements hai to Design hai
Design hai to Development hai
Matlab Project Gol Gol hai
Bus ghumnewala chahiye..

Tuesday, June 22, 2004

G O O G L I S M

try this site.......some funky timepass.

http://www.googlism.com/

Thursday, June 17, 2004

e-Cinema: faster reach to smaller cities

June 17, 2004

e-Cinema is a very simple and efficient solution, using digital technology, to cut the problem of film piracy. Adlabs Films Ltd, the country's largest film processing company, have already helped 130 cinema halls to upgrade to `e-cinema' using digital projection. The investment required per screen is Rs 10-12 lakh and is done entirely by the Adlabs. The cinema owner is only required to share revenues for the next three years.

One of the main reasons for film piracy in India is the time that it takes for Bollywood films to reach smaller towns. Given the total number of cinema halls in the country at over 16,000, it takes six months to a year for the last cinema hall in the chain to get a new release. Adlabs digitises every new film and downloads it into the servers of 130 cinema halls that it has helped retrofit with digital projectors and servers. That enables the viewers in small cities to watch the movies at the same time as their counterparts in the metros.

Soon, the process is set to become faster with the company tying up with VSAT (very small aperture terminal{rcub} operators to download the content via satellite directly into the cinema hall's servers.

It has another benefit. If you don't want to shell out Rs 100 for a movie in a top multiplex all the time, opt for e-Cinema theatre. The highest ticket cost at an e-cinema is Rs 22.

The company has not only upgraded halls in smaller towns in Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Gujarat and West Bengal, it is also taking the concept to metros where people are not willing to shell out in excess of Rs 100 to watch a movie at a top multiplex. Accordingly, two e-cinema halls have been opened in Mumbai.

Business Line


Friday, June 11, 2004

India, Inc. jittery over job quotas

This is scary and riduculous........!!

I hope it does not go through....arZan


The Economic Times Online

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-709348,curpg-2.cms


India, Inc. jittery over job quotas
ABHINABA DAS & K YATISH RAJAWAT

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, MAY 31, 2004 12:05:16 AM ]

MUMBAI: The UPA is likely to open a Pandora?s Box, as it plans to bring in job reservations for the underprivileged in the private sector .
There are also some who are secretly wishing that even if job reservation in the private sector becomes a reality, the overall percentage will be too low and all the jobs will be at the level of office support staff.
?How is it even possible? I can?t believe they are serious about it,? an incredulous head of a large industrial house asked ET. For Indian corporates, striving to become globally competitive, the ? reservation scare? comes at a time when their expectations of labour reforms are as good as over, at least for now.

Says CII president Anand Mahindra: ?This matter has to be dealt with extremely carefully. The concept of reservation without reference to merit could have a distorting effect on the operations of the private sector. We are, however, glad that the government is initiating a dialogue to solicit all points of view, including that of the industry, before making any specific policy changes.?
Industry observers however say the talk about job reservations, which is seen as a move to appease the Left, could flare up into a major issue as it will face ?tremendous resistance? from all quarters of Indian industry. ?There will be uniform resistance to this desire. At a time when the domestic market has been opened up and the manufacturing sector as a whole is looking at ways to downsize operations to become globally competitive, how can the government think of putting such a heavy burden on us,? says the CEO of a leading domestic company.
There is also a feeling from a section of Indian industry that the omission of other backward castes (OBCs) and the physically handicapped from the category of people who would qualify for job reservation, in case a consensus is reached, could be a deliberate attempt to get some support from the private sector.

The big worry for the private sector, however, is that most political parties, regardless of their personal views, could voice their support for job reservations, as it could otherwise affect their political support, particularly among the sections concerned.
If the reservation issue gathers traction in the coming days, apex industry chambers like CII, Ficci and Nasscom will have a lot of fire-fighting to do. ?A lot will also depend on how unified the opposition from the private sector will be,? said a top industrialist. ?Indian industry is very resilient when it comes to dealing with regulations. We will have to see how to deal with this,? says the head of the large industry house quoted earlier.

According to Kiran Karnik, president of the National Association of Software Services Companies (Nasscom): ?We are for affirmative action but we believe it has to be at the base level and not at the apex level. The government should look at the primary, secondary and up to the highest education level, even the IIMs, for such reservation. It does not make any sense to do it at the job level as it will completely destroy the meritocracy in the private sector.?

There is a feeling that in high skill sectors like software it is difficult for affirmative action to work and is likely to affect India?s image in the global environment.

?If the underprivileged section of society has to be economically advanced, it has to be brought to the same education level as the other sections of the society,? Mr Karnik said.

Says Nanik Rupani, president, Indian Merchants? Chamber: ?Such a move will send out a wrong message to the investor. As per my knowledge, nowhere in the world is there reservation based on caste. You have to respect the sentiment of the employer or wealth creator. While I am totally for the upliftment of the backward classes, employment opportunities should be based on merit and capability rather than reservation. In my opinion, investors would perceive this aspect as another obstacle in their path of development, which may lead them to invest in other economies like China.?
The immediate provocation for that contentious paragraph in the CMP seems to emanate from an old demand from some of the allies which have a large support base among the scheduled castes/tribes. The reasoning is as follows: PSUs, where reservation has been in existence for a while now, have all been implementing voluntary separation schemes.

Politicians feel that with the overall headcount coming down in the PSUs, the number of job opportunities available for SC/ST will also dwindle, given that reservation is a percentage of the total number of employees in an organisation. Therefore, their contention is that reservation now makes sense in the private sector, to enable economic and social mobility for the SC/ST.

Wednesday, June 09, 2004

Zulu's Indian music obsession

By the BBC's Ethirajan Anbarasan

Few would have thought that the Zulus of South Africa would have much interest in southern Indian classical music.

But South African Patrick Ngcobo has proved that ethnicity and language are no barriers when it comes to learning about music far from home.

When he decided to learn southern Indian classical music, better known as Carnatic music, his African friends in Durban ridiculed him, and his Indian neighbours were sceptical.

For them, it was abnormal for a person from the warrior Zulu tribe in Natal province to take up Carnatic music.

Perfect pitch

Ignoring insults and sniping remarks, Patrick single-mindedly persisted.

Today, the 34-year-old sings in seven Indian languages.

He can slide from one Indian raga, particular melodic scales, to another with ease - his diction is remarkable.

It was so difficult for me to sit cross-legged for hours. Because of our food habits in Africa, our bones have become tight and I could not sit for long.
Patrick Ngcobo

His perfect pitch, whether high or low, and fantastic range of voice and ability to sing in different languages is clearly the result of dedication, toil and hours of continuous practice.

It all started when Patrick happened to listen to a song of the famous South Indian classical singer, Dr KJ Jesudas.

"I have never heard such a melody before. The mesmerising voice took me to a different world. That was it. I wanted to learn the style and it became my dream to meet KJ Jesudas," recounts Patrick.

Luck favoured him when Jesudas performed in Durban in the early 1990s.

Impressed by Patrick's musical talent, Jesudas offered to teach him Carnatic music if he could go to the city of Madras, in southern India.

With poverty knocking at his door, Patrick went from pillar to post to find resources to go to India. But it was not easy.

"I had no money, no relatives or no friends in India. Thanks to some sponsors I finally set foot in Chennai (Madras). That is it. I had no contact with my family for three years, they did not even hear my voice," says Patrick.

He was also fortunate when Jesudas offered him a place to stay at his residence.

Years of hard work

But life was not easy in Madras. From food to clothing everything was alien and the rules were rigorous.

He abstained from alcohol, meat and relations with women. With all his time occupied by learning Carnatic music, socializing was minimal.

"It was so difficult for me to sit cross-legged for hours. Because of our food habits in Africa, our bones have become tight and I could not sit for long. I managed, but even now I use a cushion while performing," says Patrick.

Carnatic music normally takes years of hard work, patience and dedication to learn.

In addition, a student has to get the pronunciation right while singing the songs either in Tamil, Telugu or Malayalam.

As a beginner, Patrick first had to sort out the language barrier and pronunciation difficulties, which all took time.

"Sometimes it was too frustrating. I used to practice from five in the morning till midnight. It took six months to learn one verse from a particular keerthana, or a song. But eventually, I got there."

Talking to the BBC from Madras, KJ Jesudas is extremely happy about his African disciple.

"Right from the beginning, I was impressed with his hard work, perseverance and devotion. His observation is remarkable. He is a classic example of what dedication can bring to a person irrespective of his or her background," he said.

Patrick returned to South Africa in 1996 and started performing in public.

'Rare opportunities'

The black Carnatic singer naturally drew attention and made headlines. To satisfy his local audience, he even started composing songs in Zulu based on Indian ragas.

With a huge Indian population (1.2 million) in South Africa, Patrick thought he could be a professional singer and also teach Carnatic music.

"Being the first black person to learn Indian Carnatic music, I thought I would be encouraged. I am disappointed to say that I rarely get opportunities to perform in South Africa," he laments.

The Zulu singer believes because of his ethnicity he is being sidelined in South Africa.

While he gets chances to perform in places like Botswana, it is not sufficient to satisfy his musical thirst.

Being the eldest in a family of seven, Patrick has other responsibilities.

Now he specializes in gardening services and also runs a taxi outside Durban.

But he continues to practice his music while cutting trees or driving the cab.

One day, Patrick believes his chance will come to prove his mettle.

"My dream is to perform around the world and show the greatness of the Carnatic music," he said.

Story from BBC NEWS:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/3784767.stm

Published: 2004/06/08 08:59:18 GMT

� BBC MMIV

Monday, June 07, 2004

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Friday, June 04, 2004

Jo Bole So Nihal ...waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh !!

I was standing at jalandhar station when my attention went towards a Sikh youth standing near me wearing a Black turban having a long beard and wearing a kirpan over his shirt looking similar to a terrorist.


After a while, one local train arrived, which was totally packed. The Sikh youth tried to alight the train but failed to do so. Just then a voice was heard from the back coach 'Sardarji Barah Baj gaye' (Sir it's 12 o'clock!) The Sikh youth looked over at that voice maker who was a young Mischievous type of person and instead of showing any anger made a smile towards him.


The smile made was so enigmatic that it seemed as if some type of truth lies behind it. Not able to resist my temptation, I walked towards him and asked why did he smile at that person who teased him. The Sikh youth replied, 'He was not teasing me but was asking for my Help'. I was surprised with these words and he told me that there was a big history behind that which one should know. I was eager to know the History and the Sikh youth narrated:
During 17th Century, when Hindustan was ruled by Mughals, all the Hindu people were humiliated and were treated like animals. Mughals treated the Hindu women as there own property and were forcing all Hindus to accept Islam and even used to kill the people if they were refusing to accept.That time, our ninth Guru, Sri Guru Teg Bahadarji came forward,in response to a request of some Kashmir Pandits to fight against all these cruel activities.
Guruji told the Mughal emperor that if he could succeed in converting him to Islam, all the Hindus would accept the same.


But, if he failed, he should stop all those activities . The Mughal emperor happily agreed to that but even after lots of torture to Guruji and his fellow members he failed to convert him to Islam and Guruji along with his other four fellow members, were tortured and sacrificed their lives in Chandni Chowk. Since the Mughals were unable to convert them to Islam they were assassinated.


Thus Guruji sacrificed his life for the protection of Hindu religion. Can anybody lay down his life and that too for the protection of another religion? This is the reason he is still remembered as "Hind Ki Chaddar", shield of India. For the sake of whom he had sacrificed his life, none of the them came forward to lift his body, fearing that they would also be assassinated


Seeing this incident our 10th Guruji, Sri Guru Gobind Singhji (Son of Guru Teg Bahadarji) founder of khalsa made a resolution that he would convert his followers to such human beings who would not be able to hide themselves and could be easily located in thousands. At the start, the Sikhs were very few in numbers as they were fighting against the Mughal emperors. At that time, Nadir Shah raided Delhi in the year 1739 and looted Hindustan and was carrying lot of Hindustan treasures and nearly 2200 Hindu women along with him. The news spread like a fire and was heard by Sardar Jassa Singh who was the Commander of the Sikh army at that time. He decided to attack Nadir Shah's Kafila on the same midnight. He did so and rescued all the Hindu women and they were safely sent to their homes.


It didn't happen only once but thereafter whenever any Abdaalis or Iranis had attacked and looted Hindustan and were trying to carry the treasures and Hindu women along with them for selling them in Abdal markets, the Sikh army although fewer in numbers but were brave hearted and attacked them at
midnight,12 O'clock and rescued women.


After that time when there occurred a similar incidence, people started to contact the Sikh army for their help and Sikhs used to attack the raider's at Midnight, 12 O'clock. Nowadays, these "smart people" and some Sikh enemies who are afraid of Sikhs, have spread these words that at 12 O'clock, the Sikhs go out of their senses. This historic fact was the reason which made me smile over that person as I thought that his Mother or Sister would be in trouble and wants my help and was reminding me by saying off 'Sardarji Barah Baj Gaye'


Plz do forward this mail to all ur friends so they can know about sikh history & its a humble appeal PLEASE dont make fun of RELIGIONS ! as every religion is as pure as urs.




"Its easy to joke on a Sardar, but It's too difficult to be a Sardar"


If it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done......)